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[soujourner.com]

I have said it was Solar activity for decades. Global cooling started at least 5 years ago and now that Sunspot activity has been at a low for over 2 years. The warming trend has definitely ended. Record snow in Canada, Snow in Baghdad, Record cold and snow in Sothern Chiner. Increased snow and ice cover across the entire Northern Hemisphere. So much snow in Ontario and Quebec that the housing market has slowed, people just don’t want to look at a house in bitter cold with record snowfall.
It was never Carbon Dioxide as Al claims, it is Solar Activity.
Just one link for now. I am being LAZY...
Still shopping for a good snowmobile. Kinda partial to the Polaris.
http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_022708/content/01125113.guest.html

Good Night.

[Atronach]

Now that is an “Inconvenient Truth.” Humans have very little input into the temperature of the Earth. I am not saying go pollute it though.

[Bob Bruhns]

Why does science seem to disagree across party lines?
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[soujourner.com]

The reason for the party line votes on energy issues, environment issues is the left (generally democrats) are in bed with the radical environmentalist.
When some one has a abortion and subsequently makes the statement ‘I have reduced my carbon footprint by not having a child’. When a individual makes a statement like we are killing the polar bears, or we can’t drill in ANWR it will cause the Caribou to go extinct. All are lies. Fact is we have little effect on the ecology/environment of the plant as a whole, Urban Heat Island Effect aside. That can be a discussion for a different thread.
Grand Staircase Escalante National Monument a prime example of why the environmentalist are wrong on so many levels. At that one location in Southern Utah there is more clean sulfur free coal than just about anywhere else on the planet. In my opinion Clinton made it a so if we ever do need it we would have to buy similar clean coal from Indonesia. We have over 35% of the world’s coal reserves.
I heard Paul Harvey make the statement that we have more than 40trillion cubic feet of natural gas locked up over a mile down in parts of Ohio Pennsylvania a two other states.
We have natural gas off the coast of Virginia. This gas reserve has NEVER been touched. We have a estimated 2 trillion barrels of oil locked up in Oil Shale in 3 states out west. That is more than 75% of the worlds oil shale reserves.
The enviro’s will not let us build or develop oil, gas, coal, or nuclear. Every vote that comes down the pike the radical left/dems vote production/development down. Prof of that is the recent votes on ANWR.
We haven’t built a nuclear power plant in over 30 years. It is the cleanest safest form of electrical generation in use today. Despite what the pessimist continue to say, it is still the best. Until we perfect fusion.
Fact is, if the dems/leftist were not in bed with the enviro’s we would not have the energy problems we have now and we would also not have the inflation we now have.
It’s stupid regulations like adding 10%ethanol to gasoline that is driving up the coast of food. Adding any ethanol to gasoline will reduce the amount of energy in a gallon of gasoline. Ethanol has roughly 50% of the energy that gasoline.
Corn is a major feed stock and it is being used not a food but as fuel. How stupid must we be to use food as a fuel?
It is a good idea to protect the environment but if it is going to kill or even slow the economy it is too much of a price to pay. Then dem’s/left (some of the left are repub’s) always talk about helping the poor. Every vote against domestic energy development is a vote to keep the poor, poor. Billy Clinton said a few weeks ago, “Everybody knows that global warming is real. That’s why Al Gore got the nobel prize right? But we cannot solve it alone. And maybe America and Europe and Japan and Canada, the rich countries would say ok we just have to slow down our economy and cut back our green house gas emissions cause we’v got to save the planet for our grand children.” Quite possibly the most ignorant and uninformed statement I have ever heard. This appears to be the ultimate goal of the enviro’s, to slow the economy and lock everybody into dependence on the big central government.
The nobel peace prize has become irrelevant, they gave one to the terrorist yasser arafat, need I say more?
Note: McCain/Lieberman is a bill that will give all of us a carbon tax enforced by so other government, if you this is not possible read the following:
(note pay particular attention to the highlighted sentence.)

Article VI

All debts contracted and engagements entered into, before the adoption of this Constitution, shall be as valid against the United States under this Constitution, as under the Confederation. This Constitution, and the laws of the United States which shall be made in pursuance thereof; and all treaties made, or which shall be made, under the authority of the United States, shall be the supreme law of the land; and the judges in every state shall be bound thereby, anything in the Constitution or laws of any State to the contrary notwithstanding. The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the members of the several state legislatures, and all executive and judicial officers, both of the United States and of the several states, shall be bound by oath or affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States.

Bottom line: the environmental movement is all about power and control.

[soujourner.com]

SOHO web site. http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/soho/index.html
See the one single Sun Spot, it rotates into view about the 28 of Jan. It is a Quick Time movie.
http://sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov/data/LATEST/current_mdi_igr.mpg

[Bob Bruhns]

It would help if the parties, Republican, Democrat, and whatever, and others, stopped arguing science of which they have absolutely no clue. These are the kind of people who believe that the earth is flat, and who would not know sodium bicarbonate from calcium chloride, and who could frankly care less.
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[Atronach]

Global Warming Skeptics Insist Humans Not at Fault

[Bob Bruhns]

All I can say is that anyone old enough to remember what the air was like in the traffic jams around New York City back in the 1960s appreciates the environmental controls on automobiles that we have today. It is believed that the lead levels from gasoline in cities reduced the IQ of children (and I suppose adults, too) who lived less than three stories above the ground, so the advent of unleaded gasoline has been helpful as well.

There are six billion of us down here. Heck 12 million people is 0.2% of that, and we are told that this is how many illegal aliens are in the country... let's say it's really 18 million, that would be 0.3%. If only 0.3% of those 6 billion people can have that much impact on our country, imagine what all 6.3 billion on earth can do to the atmosphere.

OK, with Global Warming, we're talking about a few degrees over a century. We aren't talking about a 150 degree summer this year, etc. It is agreed that the CO2 emissions have an impact, but it is argued that natural causes have far more impact. And it is probably premature to talk about how hurricanes like Katrina are a direct result of human use of fossil-fuels, etc.

But the politicization of the environment is causing political alignments and dogma on all sides that are heavily disconnected from the actual facts. Maybe we should keep looking at the facts, and see what really should be done. Just a thought.
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[AnnDe]

The title for this thread is a great example of how some people willfully politicize an issue. Sadly, the anger and confusion reflected by that choice of heading closes the door to hearing or understanding any facts that actually illustrate the principles of global warming and the effects of climate change.
Oh, well -- all one can say about such narrow personalized statements is "consider the source".

[AnnDe]

[Atronach]

The problem with that "6 degree" movie is this, the planet has been more than 6 degrees warmer before, it has also been more than 6 degrees colder. The movie tends to make you think that everything is going to end, but I know this is not true.

The problem with the "Inconvient Truth" movie is that most of it is about Al Gore and his random ramblings.

[RodgerPerry]

Lest we should forget, Bronowski warns us about what happened the last time Science was sidelined by "absolute knowledge" and Dogma.

The first pillar of Neoconservatism is the Infalability of Neoconveratism. Build a country on that pillar and it will crumble...

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=8mIfatdNqBA

[soujourner.com]

There is no agreement that Carbon Dioxide (CO2) has any significant effect on the temperature variance of the planet. (CO2) is a insignificant inert gas. The level of (CO2) has varied wildly of the history of the planet. If we used the method that Al as used to blow global warming out of proportion, the dinosaurs would have never been able to survive. This planet would have more resembled Venus as little as 100 million years ago. Presently (CO2) is about 390PPM (about .04% of the atmospheric gases, Parts Per Million), when dino was here is was in the range of 30,000PPM or about 3% of the atmospheric gases. Nitrous Oxide (N2O) 315PPB (Parts Per Billion) is a much more efficient gas to trap heat energy and is 296 times more efficient at trapping the Suns energy. Methane (CH4 ) is also a much more efficient trapper of heat energy than (CO2). Yet nobody will discuss the one gas that is responsible for most of the atmospheric heating. That is water Vapor. Let see them solve that little problem.
Fact is the human race has no effect on temperature of the planet as a whole. We do have a effect in the cities and towns, it is called the Urban Heat Island Effect. Just a little side note: the level of (CO2) can be twice as high in some cities (Washington D.C.) as it would be is say rural Paris, Virginia. The U.H.I.E has been well documented for Atlanta GA. I have no desire to include it in this posting.