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Overseer · Longtime Member Joined: 09 Dec 2004 Posts: 1274

I am amazed at just how vulnerable we are to the power of suggestion regarding labels....ie: "Planned Parenthood" - sounds so noble and true, and at face value, something no-one would find offense at --- until the truth emerges from behind the name and exposes the fact that the real name should be "Abortion Support Center" or "Baby-Killers Anonymous".

Likewise - "American Civil Liberties Union"..... my my ... such a nice ring.... but belies its Communist, Aetheistic roots and true purpose to undermine everything American.

Thank God Americans are slowly awakening to the truth behind many of these facades. The next big one is this farce that Islam is no threat.

O - how I hope Americans continue to seek the truth.

Harrison · Longtime Member Joined: 23 Oct 2003 Posts: 2662

Overseer · Longtime Member Joined: 09 Dec 2004 Posts: 1274

Chairail,
how I wish you were accurate in your assesment of the ACLU's impartiality.... unfortunately, history indicates that they are Anti-Christian and Jewish, and anti authority. They feed on the publicity they obtain by adopting the most bazare undertakings. The media proudly projects thier latest destructive whim as if it were something to be admired due to its cleverness.... with no regard for its impact. Gullible, spineless, activist judges ignore precedent and are easily swayed by thier own liberal mindset.

formerly Overseer

Harrison · Longtime Member Joined: 23 Oct 2003 Posts: 2662

Overseer · Longtime Member Joined: 09 Dec 2004 Posts: 1274

I'll make it even easier....

for every instance you cite in which the ACLU has come to the "defense" of a Police Dept. - any police department - I will cite 5 cases in which they have defended a criminal.... same with Christianity.... They are at the heart of the destruction of traditional American values which have stood since the beginning of our great country..... THAT, my friend is ANTI America --- decreases America's standing and authority in the world and leaves us ---- worse off.

So I'm assuming you believe they have been good for America, which is what this thread was about.
Fortunately, Americans have begun see thru this charade and are beginning to stand up to these clowns and are winning in case after case.

GOD BLESS AMERICA

former Overseer, still overseeing in spirit

Harrison · Longtime Member Joined: 23 Oct 2003 Posts: 2662

Overseer, why would the American Civil Liberties Union need to come to the aid of a police department? That's just an ignorant argument. The ACLU may help individual officers who are facing issues that infringe upon their constitutional rights but who is oppressing the police in general? If you can't support your arguments, just admit that and move on. If you can support your argument that the ACLU is anti-Christian, anti-Jewish and pro-criminal then cite your sources. I'd love to be enlightened. Also, please cite your sources for "Americans have begun see thru this charade and are beginning to stand up to these clowns and are winning in case after case."

Until about 40 years ago traditional American values consisted of legal, institutionalized racism and segregation. Or were you referring to the traditional American values further back in time that consisted of wholesale slaughter of the indigenous people that lived in America, owning human beings and treating them like they were farm animals (the founding fathers went so far as to included exceptions in the constitution to insure slaves were not covered). Were these the traditional (and largely Christian) values of which you speak?

Tanten · Joined: 12 Jan 2008 Posts: 837

Those who rail against ACLU don't realize how fortunate the country is to have such an organization.

Bob Bruhns · Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 9:48 pm Post subject:

Likewise Judicial Watch.
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Overseer · Longtime Member Joined: 09 Dec 2004 Posts: 1274

This country was founded upon the notion of rule by the people for the people......today, what the majority of the people want is ignored by professional politicians. Traditional routine activities in America now have to be filtered through a litmus test of approval by the ACLU. Eventually, NAMBLA might be able to snag your small child for sexual exploitation and it won't be against the law, or a misdemeanor at best. Oh, and your freindly neighborhood mosque will house the weapons used to slaughter your kids in an elementary school and you will wish you had used common sense during the arguments over the "privacy-rights" issue that thwarted surveilance on the mosque.

friend04 · Longtime Member Joined: 10 Nov 2005 Posts: 2195

At least the ACLU follows through when it files a lawsuit, and obtains court decisions on the issues that it raises. With the ACLU, a lawsuit is actually a lawsuit. With Judicial Watch, it's just a press release.

Bob Bruhns · Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 10:56 pm Post subject:

Judicial Watch does not always have to find activist judges, friend04. Sometimes things change by themselves.

You're just mad that JW joined the Capital Area Alliance.
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Tanten · Joined: 12 Jan 2008 Posts: 837

Oh Bob - To even mention Judicial Watch in the same sentense as ACLU is an abomination. Tom Fitton is a young (fairly), spotlight seeking, extremely selfimportant man. Read his newsletter: I did this, I did that, I spoke at such and such a ------ whatever.

ACLU defends those, individuals or groups, that are being unfairly treated. There are times when I totally disagree with their actions, but the bottom line is that they defend our FREEDOM AND LIBERTY!

friend04 · Longtime Member Joined: 10 Nov 2005 Posts: 2195

No, I am just baffled that you - or anybody - would think that Judicial Watch has anything to do with protecting rights or clarifying legal principles through the courts.

Bob Bruhns · Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 11:19 pm Post subject:

Friend04, Judicial Watch was the only legal group that called for obedience to state and federal employment laws in Herndon. You certainly haven't, and you still pretend that there was no issue of law in the illegal hiring that was going on.
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Harrison · Longtime Member Joined: 23 Oct 2003 Posts: 2662

Overseer please cite your proof for your initial statements. I would like to see how the ACLU is anti-Christian, anti-Jewish and pro-criminal. As far as child molesters go, the country is tougher than ever on them. We have Megan's law, sex offender registries (for life) in most if not all states. Some states actually have the death penalty now for child sexual predators (depending on the age of the victim(s) I believe). Forty-five years ago in your imaginary world of traditional American values we were having race riots, open bigotry and the world was a child molester's haven. It would have been a lot easier to get away with molestation back then versus now so your statements about people's children being snatched and that being a misdemeanor don't make any sense.