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Bob Bruhns
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 8:24 pm    Post subject: Herndon's Mayor Steve recommends enforcement Reply with quote

Herndon's Mayor Steve is asking the Virginia General Assembly for some enforcement tools.

Herndon police wrote 700 citations for unlicensed driving in 2007, compared to 10,000 by Fairfax County. Hmm, Fairfax County population, over a million; Herndon population: about 24,000. That's a 14:1 ratio of citations, for a 40:1 ratio of population. So it would appear that either Fairfax County is not enforcing traffic law, or Herndon has a whole lot of unlicensed drivers for some strange reason.

I wonder what the General Assembly's excuse for continuing to fail to enforce the law is going to be this time.

Cracking Down on Illegal Drivers in Virginia
Washington Post, Sunday, December 14, 2008; Page B08
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The law in Virginia allows for the impoundment of vehicles in certain instances when drivers are found to have revoked or suspended licenses. Herndon is requesting that the General Assembly pass legislation to amend this law to allow for administrative impoundment of vehicles driven by people being charged for a second time or more for driving without a license, following a conviction for a first offense. We are proposing that in such cases, vehicles should be impounded for 30 days, and that offenders be held responsible for the cost of impounding and storing the vehicles. Jurisdictions that do not have storage facilities could use private towing and storage contractors.

-- Steve DeBenedittis, Herndon

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 8:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Imagine that - putting the health and safety of innocent, legal and law abiding residents rights before those of law breakers. And, at no cost to the tax payers. What a concept!

I presume ol' Dillon will not allow localities (Fairfax County) to expand this legislation without GA approval.

Now the onus is on the General Assembly to see just who they really represent.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 24, 2008 9:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A week since my email request to vote for this recommendation ... AND ... two e-newsletters from Plum, and not even so much as an acknowledgement.

Howell would have us believe she is so "busy" that she only has time to send scripted mass mailings.

If the past is any indication of Plum's and Howell's voting record, I'd say its safe to presume they take the rights of drivers with revoked or suspended licenses as more important than those of us with current licenses and clean driving records.

Oh well, there are the upcoming town halls to raise the issue again.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 28, 2008 11:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

or perhaps they think we have enough laws on the books to address driving without a license and there are other more pressing concerns to be addressed.

our mayor is a lonely voice -- four people attended the culpeper coalition meeting, nobody wants to talk about nol offenses, only 4% of the town residents think immigration is an important issue. perhaps it's time for a change.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 29, 2008 1:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Change - yes, I think that considerably more than 4% of the people ought to be thinking about illegal immigration, when 12 to 20 million people in the country are here illegally, and our state and federal governments seem so remarkably unconcerned about enforcing immigration and residency laws that already exist.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 29, 2008 7:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Input on other forums shows people are becoming more concerned about the social services paid to illegal aliens and their illegitimate children while they and their parents are being cut from programs.

As much as some of the advocates would like to believe illegal aliens are not receiving any kind of social services, that is just not true.

Pregnant illegal aliens receive pre and post natal care, as well as hospitalization for the birth - at the tax payers expense. It doesn't matter that the resultant child may be an American citizen by virtue of abuse of our Constitution, what matters is these women are NOT entitled to benefits, yet they are receiving them, while Americans (unemployed with too many assets) are denied.

Illegal aliens with American born children are receiving food stamps, housing assistance, and a plethora of other services. Americans who lost their jobs but have a savings account are expected to take it on the chin as they stand in line behind illegal aliens who whip out their Food Stamp debit card and WIC coupons.

One woman said she lost her job and did everything right by putting money into a savings account for a "rainy day." When she applied for Food Stamps, she was told because her assets were "on the line," she only qualified for $16/month. When asked why she is being denied full benefits when illegal aliens are using the debit cards every time she's in the grocery store, the clerk just signed heavily and said she was only doing her job.

Driving without a drivers license is a serious offense, there is no question. When people who have no health care coverage and can barely put food on their tables are told they can't get assistance while illegal aliens are given HMO and Food Stamp cards and WIC coupons, somehow driving without a license isn't all that important.

The general concensus is starting to sway the other way, as even the “liberals” are starting to demand Americans - born to American citizens - be given consideration before those born to illegal aliens, regardless of "legal" status.

My niece who is a teacher in AZ said since E-Verify was mandated state wide, the number of students of illegal aliens who have left the school system has reduced the student count by 20% easily.

Illegal aliens across the state were either denied employment or fired from their jobs when they couldn’t provide verifiable documentation and left the state. Some areas of AZ that had been taken over by illegal aliens have turned into ghost towns, which resulted in a marked downturn in crime. .

If what I'm reading on the other forums is an indication of what Americans are thinking, our new Congress may give serious pause to drafting legislation to legalize illegal aliens as long as REAL Americans are hurting.

I doubt Virginia will take the same steps as AZ. Connolly, Warner and Webb promised developers and construction contractors cheap labor when the money rolls in for the Metro. Even if they slip on all the other promises they made, this is one promise they won't back down from - not if they want to keep their seats.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 29, 2008 12:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

AlexS wrote:
Pregnant illegal aliens receive pre and post natal care, as well as hospitalization for the birth - at the tax payers expense. It doesn't matter that the resultant child may be an American citizen by virtue of abuse of our Constitution, what matters is these women are NOT entitled to benefits, yet they are receiving them, while Americans (unemployed with too many assets) are denied.


Just to pick one example from your ill-informed polemic. These women--if they meet the financial eligibliity requirements--are entitled to benefits, and so is any citizen who meets the financial eligibility requirements. If you have too many countable assets you are not entitled to welfare benefits. duh.

I can just imagine what other forums are feeding this myth that citizens are being cut from programs to make room for non-citizens. It is a myth. But it serves a certain propaganda purpose, so it is repeated in hopes that (some) people might believe it.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 29, 2008 1:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Meanwhile, considerably more than 4% of the people ought to be thinking about illegal immigration, when 12 to 20 million people in the country are here illegally, and our state and federal governments seem so remarkably unconcerned about enforcing immigration and residency laws that already exist.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 29, 2008 3:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

friend04 wrote:

Just to pick one example from your ill-informed polemic. These women--if they meet the financial eligibliity requirements--are entitled to benefits, and so is any citizen who meets the financial eligibility requirements. If you have too many countable assets you are not entitled to welfare benefits.


Illegal aliens who are pregnant are NOT citizens and NOT entitled to ANY Benefits. You yourself have admitted that pregnant illegal aliens are receiving tax funded pre-natal services and hospital care to deliver their anchor babies. Duh!

As more and more Americans are denied benefits, and watch as illegal aliens are granted them, its just a matter of time before something give.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 29, 2008 3:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bob Bruhns wrote:
Meanwhile, considerably more than 4% of the people ought to be thinking about illegal immigration, when 12 to 20 million people in the country are here illegally, and our state and federal governments seem so remarkably unconcerned about enforcing immigration and residency laws that already exist.


Trust me Bob more than 4% ARE thinking about enforcing illegal immigration and as money becomes tighter, those thoughts are not "kindly."

My niece was a fence sitter until E-Verify was mandated state-wide in AZ. Since the children of illegal aliens left, and the classrooms became more manageable in size, test scores have been on the rise, and the few who are bold enough to remain no longer apply for social services or go to the ERs any more.

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Today on the news, it was reported that Child Neglect in Fairfax County has increased 23% over last year. This is what happens when services tighten up for American Citizens but flow freely for illegal aliens.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 30, 2008 12:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

AlexS wrote:
Illegal aliens who are pregnant are NOT citizens and NOT entitled to ANY Benefits. You yourself have admitted that pregnant illegal aliens are receiving tax funded pre-natal services and hospital care to deliver their anchor babies. Duh!

As more and more Americans are denied benefits, and watch as illegal aliens are granted them, its just a matter of time before something give.


Pregnant women are entitled to receive prenatal care and labor and delivery services, without regard to immigration status. They are entitled, by law, and you are a big supporter of law enforcement so get over it.

The US has a public policy of providing for and protecting infants and children, without regard to any infractions their parents may have committed. The public health policy of the US is to provide prenatal care and labor and delivery services rather than have these infants born without prenatal care or safe labor and delivery services, and then have complex health and medical problems which will require even more expensive services. The children are citizens if they are born in the US, according to law, and (again) you are a big supporter of law enforcement.

It is a MYTH that citizens are being turned away from benefits to which they are entitled, while non-citizens are freely granted benefits to which they are not entitled. MYTH means that this propaganda piece has no basis in reality, and is simply not true. It is propaganda. It is a myth developed to serve a particular political purpose, without regard to reality.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 30, 2008 1:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No Friend, Illegal Aliens are NOT entitled to prenatal care. They are entitled to EMERGENCY care ONLY. You keep trying to tell us that the "Law" entitles illegal aliens a tissue when their noses run, but you conveniently forget to post a link to this law.

Pre-Natal Care is NOT Emergency Health Care, and we all know that all the medical expenses for the anchor babies born in Northern VA to illegal aliens were not self-paid.

And if you honestly think that unemployed American citizens are not passed over for food stamps because they have a savings account, you're not paying attention - which makes you part of the problem.

Many of the things you have said are simply not true. You fail to provide a link to the laws you "claim" support your nonsense, acting all puffed up and saying you don't have time ... when we all know no such laws exist.

We may have been born at night Friend, but we weren't born last night.

Illegal aliens and their anchor babies have been, and continue to be a drain on our coffers and a blight on our communites. Nothing good will ever come from a people who so blatantly abuse our laws and then thumb their noses at us while they take food from the mouths of children of American citizens (born to American citizens).
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 30, 2008 3:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

AlexS -- people who have savings accounts over a certain amount do not qualify for food stamps because they are not poor. Nobody's immigration status has anything to do with that. Welfare programs are for poor people, and "poor" is defined as having no other resources.

Community Health Care centers provide comprehensive prenatal care to women who are not eligible for Medicaid or FAMIS.

Children born in the US are American citizens.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 31, 2008 8:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Illegal aliens are not eligible for Medicaid or FAMIS - nor are they eligible for any associated tax funded services! Community health care centers that are funded with tax dolllars are breaking the law by providing these services.

Citizens are starting to realize this as their benefits, and those of their parents, are being cut off or reduced to practically nothing.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 01, 2009 9:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"and a man hears what he wants to hear, and disregards the rest...."

happy new year.
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